Waterboarding is Just Unpleasant

Written by Caped Shitheader

Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:00

"I have been waterboarded most who have gone through SERE school have been. I survived and it was unpleasent. For all you liberal douche bags that want to say it is torture get a life. Anthing that saves one American ass is worth it. Last time I checked we don't behead people on camera.

So we make them take unpleasant photos and sleep deprive them. Play loud music and have woman parade infront of them half naked. If this is the shit you guys are coming from and calling torture you don't deserve to be free."

That was a comment on another article written on April 23rd. The article was about Hannity volunteering to be waterboarded for charity and how his father serving in the military justifies his blurting out whatever comes to mind and calling it the truth - though let's not forget there was a draft back then and that Hannity Sr. could very well have been the same chicken shit screamer his son turned out to be.
Or maybe, and this is a reach, his dad's regretting having fought for a country that would not only allow torture, but in Hannity's and the commenter's case actually condone and even see it as a fun activity at parties and company outings.

Interestingly, the person writing the comment claims to have undergone SERE training. Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) was performed by the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA). The same agency that, in a memo noted:

As noted previously, upwards of 90 percent of interrogations have been successful
through the exclusive use of a direct approach, where a degree of rapport is established with the
prisoner. Once any means of duress has been purposefully applied to the prisoner, the formerly
cooperative relationship can not be reestablished. In addition, the prisoner's level of resolve to
resist cooperating with the interrogator will likely be increased as a result of harsh or brutal
treatment.

As for the liberal douche bags out there it's hard to believe that this kind of liberal douche bag comment wouldn't really piss off the defenders of torture:

The unintended consequence of a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. Personnel.

Friggin' liberals with their anti- American rhetoric! Who the hell do they think they are to … oh wait, that was a quote, again, from the military's Joint Personnel Recovery Agency.

Maybe this is a better quote that clearly shows the liberal demeanor toward torture and how it can't be tolerated:

The United States participated actively and effectively in the negotiation of the Convention . It marks a significant step in the development during this century of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment. Ratification of the Convention by the United States will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today.

The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called 'universal jurisdiction.' Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution.

Whoops, nope sorry, that was Ronald Reagan.
Let's try another one.

I forgot to mention last night that following World War II war crime trials were convened. The Japanese were tried and convicted and hung for war crimes committed against American POWs. Among those charges for which they were convicted was waterboarding, he told reporters at a campaign event.

If the United States is in another conflict ... and we have allowed that kind of torture to be inflicted upon people we hold captive, then there is nothing to prevent that enemy from also torturing American prisoners.

Oh, damn. Et tu McCain? Yep, it was. I shit you not. Here it is. A full quote.

And before you start pulling your hair out and screaming that we're at war now and things have changed. Look back at the time Reagan made that comment and the cold war was in full swing and a suicide bomber blew up an Army barracks in Beirut.

So let's take the proponents of torture and try a little experiment. Let's waterboard the spouses and children and some of these advocates of torture, like Hannity volunteered for. And while they're drowning and suffocating, ask them if their spouses and parents are abusive, criminal, and pedophiles.

What do you think they'll say? That it's unpleasant? Maybe we'll need to do it 187 more times, just to make sure.

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theangrypatriot said:

One more time...
Great article.

Watching 10 minutes of Hannity is torture. I REALLY miss William F Buckley, Jr's http://unhub.com/GFBl brand of intellectual honesty and integrity. He might not agree with you but he'd never lie about you.

August 25, 2009

UrLocalLibertarian said:

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LadyE this is where I laugh again at liberals. What started all this post was a comment about Sean Hannity and primarily how he tries to hide behind his families service. You and other liberals do the same thing.

As unfortunate as it is to keep Americans safe people have to get their hands dirty. What makes it sad is no one cares as long as it is keeping them safe. The whole waterboarding fiasco in the media is not intended to make us aware it is or was intended to make conservatives primarily the Bush administration look bad. We now know that one Miss Pelosi knew about this. This is not about exposing things people feel are wrong it was intended to try and black the eye of an adminstration.

That is where I have the problem with it. I have a big news flash for everyone. Americans don't wear bright shinny white hats and ride in on white horses. We are just as vicious as every other nation. However we are more then likely the only nation that tries to crucify the very people (soldiers/cops) who volunteer to due violent acts so you can be safe. A simple thank you would suffice instead of trying to always make them look bad which the liberal media and liberals are very good at doing.

May 20, 2009

labsr4me said:

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I would agree with you LadyE, except we are not fighting a sovereign nation. We are fighting an organized group of irrational animals, who sacrifice themselves simply to kill innocent people. There is nothing to be gained militarily on behalf of a government when the Taliban or al qaeda conduct suicide bombings against their own innocent civilian countrymen.

The US continues to operate under rules of engagement from WWI and WWII, while other countries have long chucked those in the trash can. While I would prefer that everyone tell the truth when interrogated, that just does not happen. The US has taken the high road many many times, and relative to our current enemies, we are still taking the high road relative to al qaeda and the taliban's treatment of people they have kidnapped.

Have the terrorists ever considered coming to the negotiation table to work something out? NO, they don't want peace. They want bloodshed and fear. We are not even remotely like them. We are not seeking bloodshed and fear, we are seeking peace, like your grandfather did. The attack that took place on 9/11 was unprovoked and killed thousands of innocent victims for absolutely no reason but to instill bloodshed and fear. To compare waterboarding to those actions is naive.

I think it is very easy to say it should be stopped and we just give them a cup of coffee and a cigarette and we have a fireside chat with them, and they'll just give up all the info we want. It's another situation entirely when you are personally responsible for thousands of troops and you have to hand a flag to a mother of fallen soldier and answer the question she asks of you..."Did you do everything you can to protect my child?"

May 19, 2009

LadyEris said:

I stand corrected
I apologize for calling this a liberal website. I do not however apologize for my point. In the original post 353 calls all the liberals "douche bags". Now if that is an exchange of ideas I have been sorely lacking in my parental duties. I was mostly commenting on the fact that we "aren't worth the air we breath". Which yet again, I would not teach my children was an exchange of ideas. I did get a little ahead of my self in the name calling however. Now your right, I haven't served in the military. Although I come from a very long line of brave men and women who did. I was raised by a grandfather served himself and who lost every brother he had to Korea. He still wouldn't have agreed with torture. We call them Terrorists for a reason. They are the ones who do the terrible things. If we begin to act like the animals, we then have no right to call them evil. The fight would be over and we would have lost. What then would be the use of this war in the first place? Why did my Grandfather and his family make the sacrifices they made if we were just going to end up being the monsters they were fighting to stop?

May 17, 2009

labsr4me said:

Huh???
"Could someone please tell me why Conservatives get on Libral websites and then get offended?"

Well, for one, we were invited, and secondly, this blog has been purported to not be a liberal website but rather a website to point out and comment on shitheadery. A blog for an exchange of ideas.

ChloeR's comments toward badge353 respresent a personal attack, not constructive criticism on the topic of waterboarding.

I'm always amazed at the level of arrogance portrayed as intelligence from people who sit back and expound on things they know nothing about. They are experts because they have read the new york times and stayed at a holiday inn.

Have either of you ever been waterboarded? Have either of you ever served in the military to defend your freedom to write what was written on this blog? Do either of you work in law enforcement and witness the carnage that takes place every day on the streets and how these thugs are let go to wreak havoc again and again? Have either of you lost a loved one as a result of 9/11 or the war in Iraq?

The terrorists don't fight a conventional war. They don't honor the Geneva Convention. Ask those they have beheaded. If your family member were being paraded on TV with the threat of being beheaded, you'd be pouring the water yourself to get every piece of information out of an informant that you can.

If waterboarding has saved the lives of people, whether US, Iraqis, or whoever, then it was worth it.

May 15, 2009

LadyEris said:

So Brilliant
How awesome that you got a response from the very c**kroaches you were trying to reach! 353... you should have left it alone. Or at the very least finished it with a "your momma". Could someone please tell me why Conservatives get on Libral websites and then get offended? I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh and say 'Hey this guy is saying things that do not agree with my way of thinking, I think I will call and complain.' www.foxnews.com (just a suggestion) smilies/grin.gif

May 11, 2009

badge353 said:

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You can all go f**k yourself because none of you are worth the air you breath.

April 25, 2009

ChloeR said:

enemas all around
"Easy way to solve this:
1) Give Hannity and this badge353 guy enemas. Helps if they've been fed lots of mangoes and prunes in advance.
2) Place them in a 69 position with all the waterboarding getup in place.
3) Let them waterboard each other with the "runoff".
4) Take bets to see which one decides the experience is a little more than just "unpleasant" first. NOTE: This one will probably be too close to call since neither of these f***ing cowards will last more than 3-4 seconds.
5) Don't release them until the rivers run dry.
6) Never let them live it down."

April 25, 2009